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I am amused by the ads for "modest wedding dresses" on Facebook. Is the average wedding dress, a floor-length gown for a formal, often religious family occasion, all that immodest? I mean, I want mine to be midriff-baring, but given the designs I typically see I'm rather in the minority there.

But no matter! You don't HAVE be one of those slutty brides out there in their whorish off-the-shoulder sin-slips. You can keep your base female form from inspiring any wickedness until the end of the ceremony where you'll safely enter into the legal dominion of a man who can lock you away from the lascivious eyes of slavering, impulse-driven beasts.

Heehee. ;-)

Also, why do all the social sites show me so many ads for wedding stuff? Why does the Internet seem to think I'm getting married?

Date: 2010-06-15 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acousticshadow2.livejournal.com
The internet, especially facebook, hones in on certain things like: you are female thus are interested in getting married. In May when I listed myself as single. I instantly was bombarded with ads like "find rich men in your area" or "good christian singles in Worcester" or "hot guys want to hook up with you" while I was flattered that rich, good christian, hot guys seemed to want to hook up with me. It seemed a little premature seeing as they didn't even know I existed. lol

yeah... you know Phoebe the rest of us want to be modest blushing brides, but no... you and your slutty self want to advertise your whoreness by wearing a dress that screams slut... or so the "modest" wedding dress people want to convince you.

You did hear about Boob-quake day didn't you? It is true. Women who dress immodestly cause earthquakes!

Date: 2010-06-15 06:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laurion
A few slogans I came up with because of that event.

"You make the earth move under my feet, babe."
"If this van's a rocking, someone is showing too much cleavage."
"Exxxtreme Motorboating!"

Date: 2010-06-15 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura47.livejournal.com
the bride in the wedding i'm in this summer was looking at modest wedding dresses, because she just isn't comfortable in plunging necklines and strapless dresses. the only dress she even owned previously was a bridesmaid dress, and she generally wears BDUs and pretty gender neutral clothes. She wouldn't be comfortable in a whole lot of wedding dresses I've seen (and while most of them were floor length gowns, they are often very skimpy on top), and it has nothing to do with not inspiring lust in anyone, or her being "owned" by her husband (she's a very independent woman.)

I've also been to weddings where the bride's dress had an open slit practically down to her belly button with her breasts taped in place, and that was what she was comfortable in, and it was great. Just because someone wants to dress modestly it doesn't necessarily imply anything else.

Date: 2010-06-15 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valleyviolet.livejournal.com
You can buy or have made all sorts of dresses that have different necklines or hems. Everyone has different taste. That's what things like the offbeat bride are all about.

The folks who push particular necklines, sleeves, and hems as "modest" are pushing a very specific agenda about what showing womenflesh means and it is not very pleasant.

I for one am not a fan of being told that if a man can see my knee suddenly all of his actions (whatever they may be) are my fault. If you read the modest clothing proponents carefully, that is what they're saying. "Immodest" clothes are somehow blinding men to the point where they lose the ability to distinguish right and wrong and are no longer responsible for their actions (it's the slut who wore the clothing, it's her fault, you see). Which is a load of rationalized crap.

If you want to wear a long skirt, wear a long skirt. I certainly do. I wore Victorian day dress to my wedding. But don't let people tell you it has anything to do with being "modest". If you want to walk down the street in pasties and a thong the men who see you will still be responsible for their own actions.

Date: 2010-06-15 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura47.livejournal.com
I don't think I actually disagree with you on anything. I wasn't really talking about the cultural institutions around modesty (which is a valid and interesting topic, just not what I was talking about here.) My point was that there is nothing wrong with wanting to have most of your skin covered when you get married, and just because you want that does not mean anything else. In this instance, this bride is a raised-athiest, software engineer, abortion clinic escort, flaming liberal.

Date: 2010-06-15 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valleyviolet.livejournal.com
I didn't mean any particular comment on the bride you mentioned. My point was more to say, having a high neckline doesn't mean she has to look at it as a "modesty" issue or search for "modest" dresses to find what she wants. Styles change over time, and everyone has different tastes.

I love older clothing, but I try to stay as far as possible away from that particular clothing movement, even though their taste sometimes intersects with mine.

Date: 2010-06-15 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura47.livejournal.com
On rereading, I am probably being overly defensive of my bride (this bride? I'm her maid of honor, so I'm rather involved), possibly because various friends thought it was hilarious when she was looking at mormon dresses (because she was having trouble finding what she wanted elsewhere). My apologies to you and Phoebe for being overly defensive.

In the end, she got a pretty blue prom/bridemaid dress and got some alterations and got a shawl to wear for the ceremony. Covered shoulders signal "serious" to her and bare shoulders "party", so we're all covering our shoulders for the (entirely non-religious) ceremony and letting loose for the party. :-)

Date: 2010-06-15 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acousticshadow2.livejournal.com
In defense of offensive modesty:
So, I’m the first one to say that every person’s wedding is THEIR wedding. They should wear what makes them happy. It should be their day, no one else’s. If they want to feel beautiful wearing pasties and a thong it is their prerogative. However, in defense of modesty, I think there is something to be said for “tasteful” I think there is a difference that many people have differing opinions on where the line of tasteful falls. Personally, I think it isn’t tasteful to walk down the aisle of a church wearing a thong and pasties on your wedding day. I guess I’m not so much arguing for modesty as for tastefulness in bridal wear.

http://a0.vox.com/6a0110169a2201860d0123f172df48860f-500pi
http://www.myweddingideas.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/bikini-wedding-dress.jpg
http://www.bridalwave.tv/2009/10/27/images/Underwear%20wedding%20dress.jpg

I give the above 3 as examples…

Date: 2010-06-16 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] offside7.livejournal.com
It's probably not that strapless dresses are considered immodest, its just a key word that puts simple, positive spin on "has sleeves" or "no cleavage."

Low cut dresses or dresses with mini skirts are frequently advertises as "daring" or "sexy" but I don't think that's meant to imply others are matronly or dowdy.

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